What the REAL docs said :)

Concerning the issue of condemning the oversea medical students - I have personally asked for comments from the REAL doctors and here are their responses

Dr Hapizi said...
ermm..let me give my personal view here..a few lines..having graduated from local U and served in govt hosp many years,..probably u all (local or oversea)..yg masih lg medical student..belum 'nampak' dunia luar. jd masing2 'perasan' bagus..hehe..samalah...kat local u pun...budak UM perasan lg bagus....budak ukm plk perasan dia lg pandai...bla bla bla..tapi believe me..once u all jd HO and later on MO n speciallist...takde lagi sentimen-sentimen mcm ni...weather u grad from local ke, indon ke india ke uk ke moscow ke....sama je..maybe those grad from luar tu ambik masa few weeks or months utk sesuaikan diri dgn suasana hospital dan karenah pesakit di sini...lepas tu evrything will be the same.I had the feeling penulis surat tu ialah mahasiswa junior UM yg menulis terlalu emosional.just forget n forgive him/her...anyway my personal view..probably its more appropriate to do undergrad in local n postgrad in overseas. we hardly see any multiple sclerosis, cystic fibrosis,churg- strauss sndrome etc here. the wards were flooded with uncontrolled diabetes, hypertension, chest infection, dengue, renal failure, PUO,asthmatic, COAD etc etc whose basically know nothing about their disease....and we dont need 'high-tech' diagnostic tools as you might have learned 0/c to diagnose and treat these majority of patients..hehe..anyway...all the best and get to work soon. see ya!
May 18, 2008 4:38:00 AM

DBI said...
salam hannan,aiyo...macam tajuk bahas menengah rendah ni... belajar didalam negeri lebih baik dari luar negara.... :-Ptak kiralah di mana pun belajar, yang penting ilmu yang kita dapat..boleh kah di gunakan untuk manafaat semua...itu semuanya bergantung kepada attitude individu..ada pelajar local bagus, ada pelajar oversea bagus...macam macam..
May 18, 2008 9:44:00 AM

natrah said...
hannan,hmmm quite a hot topic ya..:)Personally I think wherever you were trained doesn't matters...yg penting ur attitude..and again from my experience tak semestinya u are good masa you student you'll be a good and caring doctor..and you mungkin takkan jd lousy doc even you did badly masa you student :)Hannan..I think mb tu tgh stress kot kan sekarang ni tgh nk final exam kan?...hehhehehehe just forgive him/her lah...
May 18, 2008 11:47:00 AM

rizhan said...
bro hannan...apa yang i nak cakap dah dicakapkan oleh commenter di atas...My personal experience - it doesnt matter whether you studied o/c or local - ur attitude would determine whether you would be a good or lousy doctors. Then knowledge comes - i believe that if u have good attitude then sufficient knowledge would follow. I have had lousy local doctors working under me or with me....dari UM pun ada sorry 2 say. Knowledge pun hancuss...And i have had lousy doctors from o/c as well tak kira le india ke ireland ke ukraine ke....So gitulah..i have had brilliant one too - some locals some o/c....And to Mr MB - i studied undergrad o/c - and manage nak jadi doktor pakar with local master programme....os nothing is impossible....So u better be a doctor first than you can write again okay...
May 18, 2008 8:25:00 PM

Shah said...
Sorry for the delay in posting a comment here :-)In my opinion it's unfair to generalize the way the writer has done. To be fair - it doesn't matter if you're educated overseas or locally, there will always be docs who don't perform up to their expected level. It's not because of their place of education but rather their own attitudes. Local ke overseas ke kalau someone tu jenis yang tak kisah pasal education and clinical exposure masa student, then masa dah jadi HO nanti sure kualiti kerja pun lemah. Kebanyakkan akan improve selepas beberapa bulan berkerja. Apa yang dibelajar kat Med School mungkin hanya 50% je membantu masa mula berkerja nanti - selebihnya apa yang dibelajar masa HO so kalau masa jadi HO pun pemalas & jenis tak nak belajar tugasan klinikal, sampai bila pun tak akan improve tak kira la samada educated overseas ke locally.
May 19, 2008 6:11:00 PM

I would like to thank all the doctors who had given their personal view on this issue. Appreciate it a lot docs!

Hopefully , by reading the comments from the Real doctors themselves - we all can be very clear about the issue. Therefore - I hereby would like not to discuss about this issue anymore.